Dr. Dylan Petkus Reviews Bart’s sleep apnea journey from struggling with grogginess and naps to having energy that makes his day easy again without needing a CPAP!
00:00
Dylan Petkus, MD
Hey, everyone. This is Doctor Dylan Petkus. And today I have the honor of being able to share one of our most favorite Canadian clients. And as Bart knows, I have a tendency to make fun of entire geographical regions. That being said, I live in Florida, and I’m from New Jersey, so it’s just part of what I’ve gone through. But nonetheless, we’re here because Bart is someone that we’ve had the honor of working with and being able to see them go along that journey that he’s going to share with you today of being someone who, you know, dealing with sleep issues, energy issues, and, well, I won’t ruin it, but I think by the nature of us being here, things are better. So, thank you so much for joining us here, Bart.
00:53
Bart
Yes, of course.
00:54
Dylan Petkus, MD
Awesome. Excellent. So we’ll start where it all started, not when your parents met, but when you started to realize something was off. So, like, when did you start to notice that your sleep, your energy, just something, like. Something amiss is with your health? When did you start to notice that?
01:12
Bart
I think it was, for me, it was a couple of years ago, and I’ve always been active and healthy. At least I thought I was healthy, you know, eating properly and everything else, and then what I would find, I’d work out, and I used to work out a lot, and I always have all my life, and. But it was funny. On the next day, I’d just be tired in the day. And, of course, I go see my. My primary care physician, and, you know, you’re the top 1%, and you’re great, and he’s fantastic, by the way, but. So there’s nothing there that would really codify anything. I thought, well, there’s got to be something else because I shouldn’t be this tired from working out and exercising and doing all the right things, and. And it just.
01:53
Bart
Just hit me that maybe I got to do something. Maybe there’s something I can do about it. But I didn’t know where to go. I didn’t know where to turn to because I. As mentioned, I already talked to my primary care physician, and all the tests and everything showed that everything was fine. So I would say, yeah, it was just ongoing. It was just finally about, you know, the beginning of the year. I just. I got to do something. There’s got to be something I can do. Yeah.
02:18
Dylan Petkus, MD
And that’s such a big part of everyone’s journey. Things like, they don’t add up like they used to, or we feel like our bodies are changing, and we have that fatigue come on. And for you, because for a lot of people out there’s, like, tired. And then, a lot of times, one of the most irritating things you can tell someone who’s tired is I’m tired, too. Like, a little bit. If someone’s, like, really tired, a great way to irritate someone. So, for you, like, what was, like, your, I guess, flavor or level of tired that, like, really was, like, that kind of kicked you in the gear of, like, oh, there’s a problem. I gotta do something about it.
02:52
Bart
Well, I guess I could back up further. I mean, years ago, I felt that, and so I figured I’d go get a, you know, a sleep test. And so I was on the CPAP machine, and I think for about the first week, it was really good. And then it just weaned off, and then I had a bad cold and some teeth, some work done on my teeth, so I stopped using it, and I stopped using the CPAP machine, and I thought, I don’t feel any different, so why bother wearing the CPAP machine? Well, that’s. Okay. So, fine. So here I’m back to where I started, and then again, something came up. I will probably get to that. But I’m literally scrolling through the night before I got to do something.
03:43
Bart
So I start scrolling through Instagram, and you pop up, and I’m like, you know, okay. And I thought, you know, well, all right, you know, because always something’s always popping up. But then I saw, you know, you’re accredited and everything. I go, well, maybe. Maybe it’s true, maybe it isn’t. And it got enough of my attention that I thought, who is this guy? And so I thought, well, I’ll sign up for your. I forget what. It was some sort of five minute thing. And then I listened to you there, and, well, maybe there’s. Maybe there’s something here. So what I like most. Sorry. Maybe skipping ahead here, is that you had declared that you had sleep apnea and overcame it. And that really got my attention. I go, wait a minute. There’s a medical doctor saying that he had it, so he knows what.
04:34
Bart
What I’ve gone through and found, somehow found a way to overcome that. Okay, now. Now you got my attention.
04:41
Dylan Petkus, MD
Gotcha. And when you saw us in the most credible places, because everyone goes to medical school and they always tell you, make sure you advertise on Instagram. No one says that. Like, what were the initial hesitations despite being American? What else?
04:59
Bart
Again, you don’t know if this is another. You know, is this some sort of scam where you’re going to, like, you know, give me a bunch of money, and I’ll give you some flavorous information that you can read in 30 seconds and go, oh, there you go. Right? Yeah, you have that trepidation when you get into, you know, when you look at that especially, no offense, thank goodness for Instagram. But it’s Instagram. And, like, wait a minute. I wasn’t about to tell my friends. What’d you find out about these doctors? Oh, all through Instagram. What?
05:30
Dylan Petkus, MD
What? Yep. Good old Internet doctors. That’s like the. Oh, geez. Like, the Holiday Inn Express. Like, oh, I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. I learned a lot. Yeah. And then also for you, because. A lot. Because, I mean, while we’re here talking about social media, I’m sure as your phone was reading your mind, because it doesn’t even just listen to what you say. It also reads your mind. What were some of the other things you were considering doing? Whether. What are some ads I’ve seen today? Mouth guards. I see, like, every day. Like, what are some other things you were considering at the time?
06:09
Bart
Right. Yeah, it’s a great point. So my brother had gone to a health food store, and they’re talking, and they were great there. But there’s some mouth tape, and, you know, there’s certain types of breathing, which. Which. I didn’t mind the breathing part, but I’m not gonna wear this mouth tape. So I wore it once. Well, I didn’t wear it. I tried it one night, and it just fell off. Right. And I kind of tried again, and it fell off again. I go, well, I don’t know how this is gonna work. And so that. That was one I thought, well, maybe here’s a quick fix. I just get my mouth shut, and maybe that’ll work. But I didn’t. I didn’t hang on to that for very long.
06:48
Dylan Petkus, MD
Yeah, no, I hear you. I hear you there. And then. And so then, like, looking more at us because we’re not a one thing. A little band aid, a little quick fix. That’s not us. Which can be disappointing for people who just want. I mean, there are people out there who are like, oh, I just want to get surgery. Which is the weirdest thing to say. Like, just around. Right. And so as you start to learn more, whether it was, you know, from reading maybe the book or watching a few of our videos or however else maybe podcasts, what were some things that started to, like, turn in your mind of, like, okay, I think there’s something here.
07:36
Bart
Yeah, I remember because I did, you know, after I thought, okay, let’s get past the Instagram post. And I ordered your book, digital book. And I listened to those modules right away. And one of the things I did, which I haven’t done for a very long time, you mentioned box breathing, which we’ve all heard before. So I’ll just try this breathing thing. I did it for 15 minutes, and I did feel surprisingly, really good afterward. I thought, well, okay, maybe there’s something there. And I did it again. And I did again. And I think there is a point. I can’t remember when, but I. We scheduled an interview, and, you know, there’s a 45 minutes free, you know, interview, you know, well, I’ll take three. Sounds good. Homer Simpson. And, well, yeah, what can that hurt? I’ll just make this phone call.
08:32
Bart
And I think. And then, of course, we discussed it. I think. I’m not sure really answering the question, but I remember in the call, and we should back up a little bit. This is not a band-aid. If anyone’s looking for a band-aid, just move on. And you’re very clear in that in the first interview. But it is a very workable system. It is a very detailed, far more detailed than I imagined it would be. A lot of value, a lot of fair exchange. So what. What did it. We had that call. And I remember the call. You’re saying, well, you’ll let. Let each candidate know whether or not you can help them. I thought that was really good. Now, I didn’t know. Again, not knowing you going, well, you know, if I was a scammer, I’d probably say the same thing.
09:25
Bart
But, you know, it was fair enough. And I will say that when we did have the first interview, because I’m in pretty good shape. And you recognize that. You acknowledge that. And you said, listen, I was doing pretty good. And he says, it’s up to you, Bart. And I said, well, will I feel better? Will this improve? And without any hesitation, you said, yes, but there’s zero communication line. You just said, yes. I think that’s when I just said, okay, I’ll do it, instead of wavering or fumbling around it. And you’re quite confident in your answer. Again, still not knowing you going, well, I’d probably say the same thing.
10:03
Dylan Petkus, MD
Yeah, because that’s a big part of it. Because, one, when we’re really targeting these root issues, not everyone’s going to have the exact same problem. Like, I mean, someone I spoke to today on that free evaluation call, were in and out in 10-15 minutes. I was like, hey, I think you should go see this person because this is not the place for, or the place is going to best serve you. That’s such an important part. But then also, like, to your point, sleep apnea is. It’s like that moment in the matrix, if you will. Now, which one am I talking about? The one with, like, the red pill, blue pill. Now I forget which one is, like, go back to your normal life and which ones. The, you know, go down.
10:58
Bart
No, I always use the analogy. I forget which one. And people that build the matrix go, you know, not that one. Or is that one.
11:04
Dylan Petkus, MD
I’m not sure. The, the truth, let’s say truth pill. And then, like, you know, comfortable, normal life. Comfortable, normal life is, I mean, kind of the standard. Like, hey, here’s your CPAP. Oh, you know, you’re a little tired. Well, maybe you’re just getting older, right? Oh, you know, well, that’s just what happens. You’re not 30 anymore. And, like, that’s the comfortable pill. And then there’s the. No, I really want to fix this pill. And although there’s no, you know, weird moment on that call where I’m like, do you want the blue pill, the red pill? Because, one, that’s just kind of weird. Two, I still don’t know which one’s which, but that’s, like, really like, the decision you had, because it’s, yes, being able to have your best health, but also, like, really not settling for less at the same time.
11:55
Dylan Petkus, MD
Because so many people, everyone has their own path. Like, they’re fine with, like, I spoke to a lady the other day. She’s like, you know what? I think I’m really fine with this CPAP, but I’m like, I am not here to convince you of what you want to do, because when it’s a system, it really is applying yourself more and being able to put the work into and get the level of success you’ve had so far with it. And so then now you’re in the program and you’re doing things. What were some of those first signs where you’re like, okay, I think I made the right decision? What were those moments for you?
12:37
Bart
I remember, I remember in the call, the first free consult call, and I thought, well, sure. Because I was reading my mind going, okay, I’m going to do this. So I’ll, maybe I’m going to talk to this doctor, you know, once a month, you know, fair enough, whatever right? And then I. And then I remember your. Look, you go, no, you’ll be talking to me. Lots. And I didn’t have any idea that lots was lots. And, you know, back here in Canada, though, we have a so-called free healthcare system. Nothing’s free. Let me tell you on that one. Maybe your phone call was free, but our healthcare isn’t. And in exchange for that, and it’s. No, this is not, you know, like, against our physician. They’re just overwhelmed with. With everybody. And I’ll go in and I’ll get.
13:24
Bart
I’m allowed to have two questions, and I have about seven minutes. It’s just how it is here. It’s. It’s literally how. That’s how it is. So I thought, you know, okay, I’ll probably get some limited access to. To these two physicians. Yourself and Molly. And then right away I thought, holy cow, like, we’re on these calls, and I’m like, okay, there’s. Okay, maybe. Maybe this is just a fluke. It’s just one call and, you know, okay, yeah. And for anyone listening up, five days a week, you can ask any question you want, like, any question. And, like an hour and a half. And I’m, like, trying to get them out as quick as I can because I still didn’t believe it. I’m going to start asking all the questions I have because I don’t. I don’t know. I’ve never seen this before.
14:14
Bart
That kind of access is what you just done. Unheard of. Right. And so for me, that is a great decision. No matter what, I’m going to have access to. To top physicians that literally tailor-made a course for me and that you listen to everything I had to say. And not only that, you have to write it out on this Excel spreadsheet. I mean, if there’s every ample opportunity for any candidate, any client to disclose everything they want. So you have it. So I thought now I would tell my friends that, and they wouldn’t believe it up here. They said, how often you can talk to them. I can talk them five days a week. No, no. Like, no. Five days a week. Do you go? Yeah, I’m taking advantage of it, you know, not every day, but as much as I can.
15:00
Bart
And I still don’t believe me, actually. I still have friends. I still don’t believe the access to yourself and Molly. I mean, I just ran out of questions almost.
15:13
Dylan Petkus, MD
I think you still have some.
15:14
Bart
It still keeps coming up. But I. That, to me, was the number one thing to have. Not only the access to two qualified physicians, but to tailor-make the answers. And another thing, I know I’m rambling on here a bit, but, you know, if you’ve been, and I’ve been considered fairly healthy and to do all the right things, but I’m getting all this data from here, there’s data from there, you know, data. Cousin Bob tells you to do something, and your chiropractor tells you to do something. Everyone’s telling you to do something and trying to, and some of it’s correct, but it’s, you’re just sort of winging it, you know, hope this works out.
15:50
Bart
It’s like baking a pie, and you just throw any ingredient you want in and, you know, with no measurement, and you just sort of throw all this in and wonder, you know, it was going to taste okay. Whereas with your program, it, it’s not like that at all. It’s extremely precise and tailor-made. So you can eliminate all that guesswork of, should I do this? Shouldn’t I do this? And even though, you know, eating, you know, protein or something like, whatever it is good, but how much and when and what do you come, what are the foods you combine that with and so forth. So, yeah, again, I recognize in the first week that this is gonna, this is a lot. I will caution people, though, if you’re doing it, be committed to it.
16:37
Bart
You’ll get the results, but you’ll get way more information than you’re probably do. I thought. And then I got all this information, man. This is a lot of information, and I, well, if I do 80% of it, you know, I’ll be good. I think I dropped about 95% of what you’re suggesting, and which is pretty good because there’s a lot that you give up.
17:06
Dylan Petkus, MD
That’s such a, a big part of it, though, because when, like, I have this big old spreadsheet of, like, content I’ll be doing in the future and like that. Or, I mean, content I’ve done in the past as well, just like, all the topics I’m going to cover, and even if I did all of those, I’m like, you know, talk about didgeridoos and which side to sleep on and da da da, and then, like, all the modules we have, etcetera, it’s not necessarily about more information, because I will say, like, most of your success is from the, like, specific questions, like, I get up at this time and then when should I eat and then when should I do that? And what about this and that, like, that’s really where the magic is.
17:54
Dylan Petkus, MD
And then being able to like refine that over time because it’s the, you know, the sessions there and then also like the emails and then like all those different pieces because when we’re looking and, you know, tracking everyone as we do, as helicopter parents, we don’t track. Well, we do, but we don’t really monitor it. Like, we don’t like check-in. Like, oh, how much, how many of the videos have you watched? We used to do that, but then we found the bigger needle mover was like the action steps because we tally those up, and everyone has a score. I’m not sure if I should ever told you that, but everyone, that’s the score where we know like what percentage of action steps they’ve done, and the higher we get that, the better someone does there, so.
18:41
Bart
Well, that makes sense. I mean, I have my business partners and friends because I told him I was going to do this program, and I recommend it, of course, as you know, to my brother and to others. But, you know, it’s like going to the gym. You can have a great trainer and a great gym, but you got to do it. You can’t just walk in there once a month and go, I suddenly lost ten pounds, and my abs are showing. You got to do the program. But the big difference is you have, again, as mentioned, great coaches just to help you through every bit of it and to give you that data. It’s not overwhelming, and you’re very careful about that. It’s a gradual enough pace. There’s a lot in twelve weeks.
19:22
Bart
There’s a tremendous amount of information, but it’s gradual enough that, you know, because there’s lots to do that if you follow it through and it’s laid out, you can tell you’ve kind of worked on this over time because it is laid out. Yeah, quite, yeah. You know what? Too much, too little. You got just the right amount to disclose to everyone so they can adopt it and understand it.
19:44
Dylan Petkus, MD
My goal is to whelm everyone. Not overwhelmed, not underwhelmed properly. Well, and then also in terms of, you know, the initial shifts you felt, because that’s, I mean, honestly, just looking at everyone, working with people, like, that’s the most motivating, the most. Keep going. So for you, like, what were those metrics? Whether it was like your energy through the day, sleeping, I can answer that right away.
20:12
Bart
So we’d always schedule meetings late, like for 10:00 a.m. I can’t get up earlier so I’d have any important meeting with my company. So you got to schedule. And my partners understood that, but I didn’t like that. And I’m like, this is, you know, well, why? Because that’s about the time I’m fully awake and actually can show up. And it wasn’t long, maybe weeks. Suddenly I’m waking up at seven. So this can’t be right. I got to go back to sleep. So I try to go back to sleep. Sometimes I did, sometimes I didn’t, but I don’t. The point being is I get up earlier now and I can schedule a meeting at 08:00 a.m. If they want to and so forth. So right away, I know it because my friends go, what are you doing here at the office?
21:01
Bart
Didn’t say a lot about that, but that’s just how it was. But they didn’t really understand sleep apnea, didn’t understand that I could sleep 9.5 – 10 hours and still be tired. I mean, I was just tired. I wasn’t faking. I own the company, I wasn’t faking it, I just was too tired. Whereas now that really improved. That, I noticed, was a big change, the afternoon naps, although I still take naps now and then, but I, for 30-some years, I’ve always had to take an afternoon nap. And many times on this, near the halfway, at the end of the program, even if I wanted to, I couldn’t now. So that’s good. Good and bad.
21:42
Dylan Petkus, MD
We took away your nap time, sorry.
21:45
Bart
But that, those two markers right there were benchmarks that I thought that, you know, codified, you know. Okay, there’s something here. The other thing, breathing. Well, my God, when you first, when we first said this, you did that test and I was if I giving anything away or not, but, and I think it was in the module, I.
22:11
Dylan Petkus, MD
Think in the first relaxed pause. Yeah, that’s, yeah, that’s fine. Yeah. Everyone should know that, watching this video. Yes.
22:18
Bart
Yeah. So when you first, in the book, I mean, it’s a digital book, so I listened and watched the speaking in this book, and you had to have everyone do it. So, you know, do this and relax and hold your pause. I’m like, okay, wow, I hit seven, you know, maybe nine, but probably seven. Okay, that’s not bad because I’m thinking it’s on a ten and I. Okay, I see, I’m not so bad. At the end you’d say, well, most people on average do 15 and you really should be at 30. So that’s when I went like here to here. This is before I did your thing. And I’m going, oh, my God, I’m at seven. And it didn’t take too long. I think in the first week I did double that.
23:03
Bart
So I went to about 15 seconds and then I kind of plateaued and moved up. So still I’ve hit 30 seconds. Not consistently yet, but going from 7 seconds. A relaxed pause as a benchmark. The breathing, really, to me, I kind of use that as the biggest indicator. If I have a good relaxed pause, things are going well, move in the right direction, but some days I’ll kind of, sometimes I’ll hit 25, sometimes 23, sometimes 26. But steady as it goes, you know, is to hit 30 consistently. And I think you’re at a thousand because a lot of times when you’re talking, I don’t know whether you’re. Yeah, yeah, well, I know sometimes you’ll. I don’t know if you’re frozen on Zoom or you’re just not breathing. And half the time it’s just not breathing. Your relaxed pause is pretty good.
23:58
Dylan Petkus, MD
I don’t.
23:58
Bart
People wonder, what are they talking about?
24:00
Dylan Petkus, MD
I hope I know a thing or two about breathing at this rate. The. Yeah, it’s funny when I like, if someone has a lot of chest breathing and if I send them a video, it’s actually hard for me to try to even replicate chest breathing anymore. It’s just not like I have to really exaggerate it. But, yeah, that’s what happens when you work on that. And another thing, because I think I’m remembering this now, because a lot of times the people in our life are mirrors to how we’re doing. They may notice we’re tired. They may notice we’re energetic. For you. What were other people noticing as you went about your days?
24:40
Bart
Well, like I said, I mean, right away that I, you know, I’m ready for any early meeting if we want one. And that I wasn’t, you know, taking a nap in the afternoon. So, because I’ve been doing that for years, that would be, I mean, the rest is like, you can always. Before. It’s like they wouldn’t know. They look, yeah, you’re fine, you know, just getting old, whatever. I hated that, by the way. I just thought that’s just a cop-out. Like, you know, I know people. My mom is 85, she works full-time at a drugstore, still working. So, you know, I’m not buying into that. You know, it was just something wasn’t right and it was. So do they. I would say, to answer your question, yeah. That I could show up earlier or I don’t need a nap.
25:30
Bart
I mean, they don’t know me enough to, you know, these are casual people. My other friends just, you know. Yeah, pretty big markers though, actually.
25:40
Dylan Petkus, MD
And then like, what are some of the other markers for your day? Whether it’s workout, recovery, I mean, being out past 08:00 p.m. Like, what are some of those other markers?
25:53
Bart
Well, I never had a problem at night. That was the problem. I could stay up all night and wide awake at night.
26:03
Dylan Petkus, MD
Thanks, body.
26:05
Bart
Yeah, I’d be trying to go to bed, you know, it would be ten, it’d be eleven or twelve, it’d be 01:00 and 01:30, 02:00 o’clock. I’m still wide awake. So that improved and it’s even. And as you know, we monitor that and try to find out on average what it takes to get to sleep. Whereas before, it could be an hour and a half that dropped down to, it’s hard to tell, 15-20 minutes or something like that. Maybe 25, but nothing compared to what it was. So, that was something I noticed made a difference. And how many times you wake up and the sleeps are deep. I dream a lot. I go to a movie going on every night.
26:58
Dylan Petkus, MD
And then one last question. So, like, where you are now? Okay, and then if you could like, talk to Bart, however many weeks or months ago that was, I guess months ago when you were kind of like, okay, maybe not. Is this an Internet doctor? Is this a maybe? He’s not even a real doctor. Maybe he’s a PhD or a. Well, now I sound like I’m mean to PhDs, but the thought processes you have. What would you say to that Bart back then?
27:35
Bart
Well, it didn’t take me long. I mean, it was within weeks. And I recognized the quality of this program and the great exchange you get for it. Too much were my friends. I just couldn’t stop. We’d be at meetings. I was talking about your program and I. Jesus, you know, if you do this and you shouldn’t do this and you should try this. I remember I was at a meeting, I went for dinner, friends of mine at business parties and their wives, and we just went on and on about this program, and I realized maybe I better shut up because I saw all the value there. And again, as mentioned before, not only to get the information you get the right amount of information. There’s so much half truths out there, or false data.
28:16
Bart
You got your false data and then you got your half-truth. It’s kind of right, but it kind of isn’t right. But in your program, there’s none of that. It’s exactly what it is, and it’s researched in. These guys have all the information. It’s not quackery. It’s backed up by data, and it’s put there. So, no, the opposite was when I was first doing it, I was talking to anybody that could about it. I got my brother on it. I still have two other people wavering, and in the time they’ve been wavering, they’d be halfway be so much better right now, you know, and they’re like still on the CPAP machine. “I’m still feeling tired.” I go, well, if you’d have done it when I said you wouldn’t have any of that right now, but what are you going to do.
28:58
Dylan Petkus, MD
Another day…
29:01
Bart
Maybe watch this video and go, huh?
29:04
Dylan Petkus, MD
Hey, guys. Hey, Joe and Tim. I’m assuming those are not their names. Those are just random names. But if that is their names, that would be great. I’m just joking around. Awesome. Cool. So, yeah, that’s, great for, thanks for sharing your story and be able to, you know, demonstrate, okay, where you were, what you went through, and now being on this other side where, like you said, you can have the 08:00 a.m. meeting, you can, you know, have your afternoon, be a full afternoon without the block for a nap or something like that, and be able to just have that, more of that consistency and looking forward to, you know, even more. So I want to thank you for
29:43
Bart
One last thing I want to end for people to know is that the thing is, too, because life happens, right? And you get all this information and suddenly, you know, I was at, I have attended a lot of galas and things like this and, but if you crash a bit with the information, I know what to do about it now, right? I go, okay, well, just do this or just do that, and it’ll stabilize, and you’ll be fine. And it stabilizes out quicker because the program was on, and then I know what to do. Right. So this information, the knowledge, what you can have for life, and you can carry that with you. So what goes with that is a lot less worry, you know, where am I going to get this? Am I going to get that?
30:19
Bart
Or what do I do about this? Blah. Blah, blah. So being on the program is very all encompassing. It’s. It’s kind of. You say you’re. You’re tackling sleep apnea, which you are, but you’re tackling a way bigger picture than that. Yeah. That’s the hidden thing. I know you know that.
30:35
Dylan Petkus, MD
Oh, it’s hidden.
30:37
Bart
Yeah. There’s every other benefit that comes from this. This isn’t just for people with sleep apnea. And my brother doesn’t have sleep apnea, and he’s on the program, as you know, and he’s doing much better than when he started. So, yeah, it’s being a cause, I guess, is the last thing, instead of being effective, going, well, if I get something, I get it. No, no, this puts you at cause, so you can do something about it proactively, or if you have something, you can actually do something about what you have. And that, I think, is of tremendous value, and I hope people should recognize that.
31:08
Dylan Petkus, MD
Awesome. Thank you. And then, for anyone who’s in America, a gala is a. Is a party for people who may not know if you’re not Canadian or Greek, it’s a party, but, yeah. So, I mean. I mean, first, thank you for doing all the work of things right. You know, taking this step, whether it’s getting the book or here’s the only physical copy that exists right there. But, you know, really taking the steps, asking the questions, showing up, modifying, and you do that, and that’s why you’re able to have, you know, this level of success. So I want to thank you. You’ve been a fun Canadian, too, well, I mean, those are the only type of Canadians I understand. You can only be fun to work with.
31:57
Dylan Petkus, MD
So thank you for being with us now and in the future, and thanks for sharing your story with everyone where, you know, now people have more of that. You’re like, okay, I don’t have to be like this. I don’t have to settle. Don’t have to be like, oh, it’s just aging, or just use a CPAP because it’s the gold standard. There are more options available. It’s up to you what you want to put your efforts into. Okay, so with that, we’ll wrap up. So, Dr. Dylan Petkus signing off here. And see you all later. Bye.